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This is why I’m in favor of public transit. So many people should not be on the road. This goes for the granny under the speed limit drivers and the insane road ragers.
Once she gets to work she finds a sign taped to the back of the car saying “honk it’s my birthday”
When people ride my ass while I am doing (at least) the speed limit I just take my foot off the gas to gently slow down until they go around me. If its only one lane then I will go under the speed limit. Im petty too like that
I just let them pass you. Not worth some lunatic you piss off even more and end up shooting you.
If it’s a 2 lane per side road the best way to get them to pass you is to not break check them but just take your foot off the gas until they get frustrated enough to just go around but this contextually sounds like a single lane sitch which you are correct is dangerous.
I’m a school bus driver and the course material (and test questions) for the CDL state this explicitly. If someone is tailgating you, you slow down. Tailgaters are gonna tailgate no matter what, and slowing down means the damage will be less if they do happen to hit you. If that makes them mad tough tittie (the course material does not use “tough tittie” but you can tell they wanted to).
The great irony of people who tailgate school buses is that WE CAN’T EVEN FUCKING SEE YOU BACK THERE. Even in your fantasy world of the person in front of you feeling pressured and speeding up (which never ever actually happens), it can’t possibly happen if they don’t even know you’re there.
Unfortunately for some, that pressure is real and entirely illogical. For the longest time my wife would start getting anxious and frustrated when someone tailgated her and would start to speed up… Only to contue getting tailgated by the same person. Took a lot of insistence from me to not play their stupid game for her to realize that not only was it stupid to speed up for them, but more dangerous and entirely illegal to start speeding just because of a tailgater.
This is correct. It’s never worth it.
I slow down to allow them to pass me safely and easily.
I would fully agree that confronting a lunatic face to face is dangerous, but the chances of getting shot for driving slow is next to zero.
Just let them go, because they are eventually gonna crash into a cop car and then you’ll see the grest confrontation between fascist pig vs unhinged sov-cit in real time, great show!
https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/driver-shot-at-for-going-too-slow-eyewitness-says/804586303/
Boom, it happened one time so it will happen every time
people in my region have been shot at for flashing their lights at someone to tell them their lights were off. that’s why i think escalating a scenario where one or both of you are wielding/controlling deadly weapons/machinery is the only way to go.
But is not zero
Fragile egos behind the wheel combined with pettiness are the worst.
This comment section is a very good case study in why better public transportation is absolutely necessary: a lot of you should not ever drive.
When you repost shit on Lemmy, the repostiness is amplified by 100x.
Same day different asshole.
Reading the comments I thought I was on Reddit :D
Petty Lane https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fUUsing phone while driving… Great.
Fuck everyone who ever touches their phone while the vehicle is on. This shit is not okay, ever.
I’m a school bus driver and many of my coworkers use their phones (talking, texting and even doom scrolling) while driving a bus - sometimes even when they have kids aboard. And these buses have internal cameras that are always recording! I don’t understand how they’re not fired or at least suspended for it, but I suppose the driver shortage has something to do with it.
hevicle
Given the size bloat, I think heavy vehicle => hevicle is appropriate.
I have some great news for you. Look at what took effect yesterday in my state! Using a mobile device, including at a red light, is now a primary offense (you’ll get pulled over for just that).
This just applies to PA, but it’s a pretty big state with a population between Sweden and the Netherlands, so it’s not nothing!
I live in PA and I’m not holding my breath for this shit to ever be enforced. I’m a school bus driver and last year I had a local cop pass me when I was stopped with my red flashers on letting kids off the bus. He was driving with one hand and looking at his phone in the other - never even saw me.
Doesn’t matter if it’s not enforced. We have no holding phone rules in GA and I routinely see people using their phones while driving.
Worse, too often these laws are selectively enforced only when cops are looking for an excuse to profile minorities and poorer drivers.
yeah i was gonna say. they enforced the no texting law for maybe a year here, then they just started using “I thought I saw them texting” as probable cause to pull over anyone they wanted.
They put up cameras to detect phone and seatbelt offences here in Queensland a couple of years ago. It’s been quite lucrative for the state.
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The phone is clearly mounted on the dashboard.
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It’s not uncommon for people to record their whole trip for social media, not just take to a picture.
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This caption could have been pasted over a completely unrelated screenshot of someone else’s video for all we know.
Don’t touch your phone while driving, but also, don’t believe everything you see on social media.
On your last point… It’s still damaging because it normalises it. UK has very harsh stance on this and you’d get in shit even for point 1. There should be zero tolerance on this. They’re a dickhead driver regardless. Two dickheads don’t make it right.
Incorrect, in the UK you can touch/use the phone if it’s mounted in a cradle. Touch it un-cradled though and wham that’s instant points even if it was out of battery and turned off
UK is a paper tiger on this.
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tbf, going 20 in a 50 zone is probably not a terrible situation to be multitasking in. not at all like multitasking at 50 in a 50 zone
Fun little Stalin fact: when the Bolsheviks first took over the Kremlin, food was a scarce commodity. Stalin faked being sick so he could have a whole chicken to himself every day.
😭 I see the error of my thinking Comrade Stalin. I will do better in the future
This one made me bust out laughing. Such a perfect combination.
The previous one is great too. Both new to me, at least.
My spirit animal
Only time I’ve been close to road rage was when a Mercedes CL had a really bright LED strobe light installed inside it’s front grill and he activating it, if somebody was in his way.
It wasn’t a cop or other emergency vehicle. Just an asshole.
I was lucky to be in front of him for 15 minutes when traffic got compacted enough to prevent lane change.
For a moment I considered hitting the brakes on that particular tailgater.
Sometimes you can adjust your side mirrors to reflect such a light into the driver’s eyes
People keep saying this but I tried it and its really hard to do that and concentrate on driving.
That works. Also, back when I delivered pizza I kept a rather large LED flashlight in my cupholder all the time, ostensibly for spotting mailboxes and house numbers. (This was back in the day when having a powerful LED flashlight was a big deal, not like nowadays when you can get 3 for $10 on Amazon or whatever.) Pointing it out the back window usually got the point across when asshats felt the need to sit three feet off my back bumper and shine their high beams at me.
Shit if I find myself night commuting again on back roads I might have to keep such a flashlight in my car. I’ve had so many trucks light up my entire fucking cabin with their illegal light mods
My attorney has advised me to make no statements whatsoever regarding the applicability of the Lumintop Thor Mini I just bought the other week, which outputs a mere 250 lumens but does so in a narrow cone that’s got, to my reckoning, a divergence of only about four or five degrees.
I’ll have to do some measuring later, but at rear-windshield-to-asshole distance it’ll only throw a spot that’s probably about a foot wide, delivering maximum fuck you with a minimum of collateral damage.
that’s pretty expensive for 250 lumens. i can get 500 for a third the price.
I take my foot off of the gas pedal, if they don’t pass me by the time I’ve coasted to as slow as idle will take me I assume they aren’t going to and return to the speed I was going previously.
I’ll slow down to exactly the speed limit (which because my speedometer is ~2MPH fast means going slightly below the limit) if someone honks at me for going too slowly. I’ll also specifically not turn right until it’s green if someone behind me honks to turn right on red
I’m a pretty chill driver. I don’t speed, I don’t aggressively lane change or push lights, but if someone thinks their horn will get me drive in a less safe manner I will happily slow them down just a little bit more. If they don’t honk, I’ll happily make it easy for them to pass when it is safe
Love reading threads about driving cause everyone is very upset for no discernible reason.
Driving is inherently stressful. Hell, merely being around cars is proven to negatively impact your health: https://www.eea.europa.eu/en/newsroom/editorial/are-you-noticing-the-harmful-noise
Driving seems to bring out the second-worst in people.
Driving is dangerous, and intentionally making it more dangerous deserves anger
anger
Is a big reason why it’s dangerous
The beauty of this comment is that it could be in support of either position.
I’ll do something similar to the OP. If I’m doing 29 in a 25 and you ride my ass, we will now do 24 in a 25. I like to think I’ve improved the safety of the local roadway. I won’t negotiate with terrorists.
This is why we should move the horb somewhere and have great big spikes on the steering wheel - the danger should have never been outsourced to others.
I get, i know it’ll never take off, but the current madness of 2T shockers is indefensible to me
- Escalates the angry driver situation.
- Takes photos while driving.
Neither driver here is in the right.
I don’t need to be right.
Fuck you Kevin you piece of shit.
Who is Kevin?
Did you even read the post youre commenting in?
going 70 in a 50
Both drivers deserve to lose their license
That’s easy to agree with in isolation, but many times on the main roads near me the normal flow of traffic in the slow lane can be 20 over. Driving at or below the speed limit would create a significantly more dangerous situation than cruising along at the same speed as the nearest several cars.
Yeah, you’d be operating in a more legal way, and the faster drivers around you should be able to safely deal with it, but that doesn’t mean the risk isn’t there.
This. Speed limit laws are bullshit and their selective enforcement is proof of it.
The dangerous drivers are the ones that are impeding the flow (i.e. going well below the speed limit when road/weather conditions don’t necessitate it; cruising in a passing lane, etc) or driving unpredictably/erratically (cutting people off, weaving, etc).
Not necessarily the speeders, though there can certainly be some overlap, particularly in the latter group.
But speeders are the ones that get ticketed over while those asshats just crash into schoolbusses.
This is a bullshit talking point used by psychopaths to try to justify their antisocial behavior. If the people around you are going so fast that just doing the speed limit becomes unsafe, they are the ones wholly responsible for creating those unsafe conditions. They are driving faster than the conditions (and let’s be real, their own ability) would reasonably allow for, they are the only ones that should be held responsible for the consequences of their freakish behavior.
Probably not. It could be in the middle of nowhere or on a road where the speed limit hasn’t been evaluated and the state default is 50. There are tons of roads like that in California or even some where the limit is in the 30s but it really shouldn’t be and locals are in the 60s usually.
You, The Master Driver, are amply equipped to decide what the true speed limit should be.
Well if you operate a death machine it would be realy nice if you could follow the rules and not kill somebody. Of course the rules should be reasonable but being unable to follow them means you should not be operating a death machine
There’s no reason to follow unreasonable rules even when you’re driving a death machine. Especially when not following the rules has an essentially near 0 difference in hurting someone with your cage of death(not trying to be sarcastic with cage of death). Many of these roads are designed for much higher speed limits but just have not been evaluated by the government for their speed limit and possibly never will be or they will be evaluated at a much lower than reasonable speed. For example the speed limit of most California freeways is 65 traffic moves at 80 regularly and sometimes when people are feeling frisky up to 90. Neither of those speeds are unreasonable when everyone around you is also doing them and people are used to those situations or understand they will be in those situations. A great example is Germany where parts of their freeways have no speed limit where people are doing in excess of 120 mph and semis are also using it at under 60.
I don’t think losing their license is the right approach. I don’t think scolding them is the approach either. I think most people don’t realize that driving is a cooperative event. And to not only accept that and also expand on it helps most road rage go away.
