You are not born:

  • L - Lesbian
  • G - Gay
  • B - Black
  • T - Transgender

It is a sin to live as LGBT.

It is not God’s will.

But Jesus can change you.

  • Stern@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    It’s called the BI-ble, not the Straight-ble. Adam AND Eve, not Adam or Eve.

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    9 days ago

    If Jesus was here right now ICE would deport him then Israel would bomb him and these Christian cunts would say he deserved it because he “didn’t follow the rules”.

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    8 days ago

    Right, because kids going through all this sexual/mental stress when they hit high school love making their lives more difficult with bullying and hatred, when they could just choose to be straight. Damn idiots.

    /S

    *Lol the black edit.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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    Wow! All the Black people who experience systemic racism will be thrilled to know that Jesus can make them white.

  • gandalf_der_12te@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    You know what is a real sin? The fucking way that people in society are treated as productive workforces to further enrich the rich. The way that people get kicked on the street if they miss a rent payment. The way that the newspaper headlines say it’s a tragedy that the Titan submersible sank, but if thousands of refugees drown in the mediterranean sea, it’s not even worth a headline anymore. (i’m still pissed about the latter one). Refugees that exist in the first place because of rich people’s greed for oil.

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    9 days ago

    Oh honey, I do not need this argument right now but I am compelled to tell you how wrong you are.

    notices what community this is

    Oh thank fuck. We’re mocking the thing.

    I need to sit down.

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    8 days ago

    What about Ezekiel 24:20 (edit 23:20)

    20 She lusted after lovers with genitals as large as a donkey’s and emissions like those of a horse

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    9 days ago

    The opposite is true. If you’re gay, God made you that way for a damn good reason! Who are you to question His will? It is a mortal sin for a gay man to sleep with a woman!

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    9 days ago

    I do think it is most likely true that one’s gender and sexuality is not set at birth but instead emerges later for most people. I mean twin studies for one thing. Doesn’t mean it’s a choice though.

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      Considering gender is a social construct it can’t exist till a person has assimilated the information needed to create the construction.

      Them figuring out where they sit inside of that construction is the tricky part.

      Sexuality is hard to say, but considering observation in preferences among other species it’s likely to not manifest fully till an organism goes though their equivalent of puberty.

      So in either case there’s basically no real argument that either is from birth. But also there’s even less of an argument that it’s a conscious choice. It’s a manifestation of the chemicals and/or the perception of the person. Depending on which of the two your talking about.

      Now if we talking about biological sex. Then yeah your born with the bits you have. Don’t mean you can’t have them changed. Or disagree with the social expectations of gender commonly associated with those bits. Thank you modern medicine and fuck expectations!

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        I meant trans status, not gender. I don’t know that science has entirely determined the cause of trans status or that it’s social.

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          Pretty sure science does have evidence that there is heavy influence from how someone grows? Obviously how someone is raised can change their attitude towards identities, even as far as making ignorant people closet and resent themselves without even truly knowing why.

          So… it’s pretty obvious that it’s both. It’s just an open question as to how much each affect, and I’d bet it’s wholly subjective anyways.

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            Yeah, it just bothers me when people reject “you are not born LGBT” as though it’s somehow a bigoted opinion. I guess they hear “not born” and mentally substitute “it’s a choice.”

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              I mean… that is the implication. What I said was, “it is clearly both.” They ARE born different, and their life has allowed them to figure out how they are different and hopefully explore it in healthy ways for those that openly identify.

              Any direct, unqualified statement of, “you are not born different” is directly and completely wrong.

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                No. I’m not aware of any evidence that one is born with the propensity to be LGBT. It’s well-known that it’s not a choice, but that is not the same as saying that you’re genetically predetermined to be LGBT. Twin studies disprove that.

                My understanding is that the current prevailing belief among psychologists is that sexual orientation develops during adolescence, and is either random or influenced in some way by one’s sexual exposure, but not necessarily in any obviously deterministic way.

                Any direct, unqualified statement of, “you are born different” is directly and completely wrong.

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                  No, you’re just being an ignorant fool with that one. There would be no people so closeted that they hate themselves and don’t know why if there were no genetic inclinations.