INFO!!! fairphone DOES SUPPORT CUSTOM ROMS!!!

i like the idea of a fairphone. i dun wana buy one tho - if it doesn hav the features i need/wan.

if fairphone had all dis stuff - it would hav a genuine moat, besides the sustainability stff-

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    • maria [she/her]@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      3 days ago

      yesyis, also my biggest gripe ;(((

      if i cud jus hook up my good lil headponies - like - i wud keep that phone for however long i cud keep it-

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          3 days ago

          I always see this argument but I really don’t want anything plugged into anything as important as the USB-C port while the phone is in my pocket.

          3.5 plugs are rather short outside of the phone (at least for headphones with 90deg plugs) to minimize leverage that you put on the port. Being able to rotate also means less stress on the port as well.

          The USB-C adapters are pretty short, but lack the rotation. I have replaced USB-C ports in dozens of Nintendo Switches and other devices, it is pretty clear they aren’t designed to take much stress.

          Long story short if anything happens I would much rather have the 3.5mm pin stuck in a headphone jack than breaking the USB-C port and making it so my phone is a brick.

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          3 days ago

          However, 3.5mm to USB-C adapters are not passive, they’re active. They need a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) to generate audio signals from the digital data stream that comes from the USB-C.

          Phones didn’t use to have very good DACs (with exceptions, of course), but they’re still normally better than whatever you get from a 3€ adapter.

          Adapters are also less convenient than a headphone jack, because now you need to remember taking the adapter and the headphones with you.

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            However, 3.5mm to USB-C adapters are not passive, they’re active. They need a DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) to generate audio signals from the digital data stream that comes from the USB-C.

            There are entirely passive adapters, but they’ll only work if the phone has the necessary hardware of course.

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              USB is digital, TRS is analog. All adapters must have a DAC (digital to analog converter) to make that transition. DAC requires power, making it active. DAC in phone will be higher quality to convert to analog. DAC in cheap adapter will be low quality.

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                17 hours ago

                Or, you wire the output of the DAC in the phone up to the USB C port and enable them only when the connected dongle announces it supports “Audio Adapter Accessory Mode” that lets the phone pass the analog audio signal through directly.

                It has mostly fallen out of favour though, as it’s become easier to just stick the DAC directly in the headphones (Or speakers etc.) and keep a purely digital output path.

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          3 days ago

          I’d consider that if they added a second USB port, but no. Why would anyone want to use headphones while their phone is plugged in?

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      3 days ago

      I use a dongle and get better audio quality than I ever had on an integrated jack. I really don’t care if a phone has the jack. If I want something compact on the go, I use bluetooth ears. If I want to listen to high quality audio, I use the dongle with a quality DAC with proper headphones.

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        1 day ago

        “focus on feature people want” crowd when you tell them you don’t want a headphone jack: Downvote, your opinion doesn’t matter.

        Edit to add on your point: using a DAC or Bluetooth and I have better sound audio than an abused jack that is the first thing to break on my phones. Plus no cable to annoy me and get tangled everywhere.
        I understand some people don’t want to move on but they then act like there is such a huge market for it and that everybody should want one. Spoiler: the market says no, if it was a differentiator for sales more phones would have one.