Just a note: It’s trans women, two words. Trans is an adjective not a prefix, we’re women that happen to be trans - Putting them together is often a dog whistle for hate groups
I hear you, and I’m not saying that’s not valid. But clearly this was not the case. And a lot of people write in whatever way that sounds like when they speak, without this fine attention to grammar - so this is bound to happen often by people that have zero intention of othering anyone.
I think there are more important fights to pick when it comes to trans inclusivity. This could sit in the back burner a little longer, for when trans people at large are no longer in fear for their lives for existing.
I wasn’t picking a fight though? I’m pointing out that someone used the wrong term for us, and explaining why that term is hurtful, with the context that there are people who use it that way on purpose to be hurtful.
I am not accusing the OP of saying it hurtfully on purpose and I don’t comprehend why you’re so offended about it. Of course there are bigger discussions to be had, but this isn’t the place for that and I was not trying to start some big discussion or fight. I was informing someone of a way they can be kinder to people and avoid looking like they belong to those same hate groups that want us dead.
Not sure which part got you riled up but it sounds like we’re on the same team here.
I’ve also heard the opposite, that separating the two words is separating them from the very idea that they’re inherently women, whereas conjoining them is making them whole. I suppose there’s still varying interpretations.
I’ve seen some folks refer to themselves as transfems, but I’ve only ever seen “trans women” because putting the two words together tries to make us sound like a separate thing. Funny that you’ve seen the same logic for the opposite.
But ultimately, “trans” is an adjective and a separate word. We don’t say “tallwomen” or “shortwomen” because tall and short are separate from the fact that they’re women.
I’m not arguing, I understand and appreciate your input. I am just telling you the idea that was conveyed to me by a trans woman that led me to putting them together in the past. I am not implying it is something new or that what you’re saying is wrong.
Just a note: It’s trans women, two words. Trans is an adjective not a prefix, we’re women that happen to be trans - Putting them together is often a dog whistle for hate groups
I mean, people write baloney instead of bologna. Maybe just take the win and drown the dog whistle so it’s no longer a thing.
It’s not a win, it’s a way to talk about trans women by othering them and calling them something besides women
I hear you, and I’m not saying that’s not valid. But clearly this was not the case. And a lot of people write in whatever way that sounds like when they speak, without this fine attention to grammar - so this is bound to happen often by people that have zero intention of othering anyone.
I think there are more important fights to pick when it comes to trans inclusivity. This could sit in the back burner a little longer, for when trans people at large are no longer in fear for their lives for existing.
But that’s just my opinion. Live your truth.
I wasn’t picking a fight though? I’m pointing out that someone used the wrong term for us, and explaining why that term is hurtful, with the context that there are people who use it that way on purpose to be hurtful.
I am not accusing the OP of saying it hurtfully on purpose and I don’t comprehend why you’re so offended about it. Of course there are bigger discussions to be had, but this isn’t the place for that and I was not trying to start some big discussion or fight. I was informing someone of a way they can be kinder to people and avoid looking like they belong to those same hate groups that want us dead.
Not sure which part got you riled up but it sounds like we’re on the same team here.
I think people just don’t know how to write it lol
I’ve also heard the opposite, that separating the two words is separating them from the very idea that they’re inherently women, whereas conjoining them is making them whole. I suppose there’s still varying interpretations.
I’ve seen some folks refer to themselves as transfems, but I’ve only ever seen “trans women” because putting the two words together tries to make us sound like a separate thing. Funny that you’ve seen the same logic for the opposite.
But ultimately, “trans” is an adjective and a separate word. We don’t say “tallwomen” or “shortwomen” because tall and short are separate from the fact that they’re women.
Its not varying, trans is an adjective. They are women, they are also trans. Its not a new thing altogether, trans women are a type of woman.
I’m not arguing, I understand and appreciate your input. I am just telling you the idea that was conveyed to me by a trans woman that led me to putting them together in the past. I am not implying it is something new or that what you’re saying is wrong.