• Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org
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    6 hours ago

    I mean obviously the gun laws are insane but the act of collectively beating the shit out of pickpockets has my respect.

    • Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 hours ago

      Violent retribution as a core principle might contribute to your completely insane murder rates.

      • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        1 hour ago

        Man, people should have a right to defend their shit. The idea that someone should be allowed to take your things in front of you and you should be charged if you beat them up is pretty unhinged tbh

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          Man, it’s just shit. Life should be of higher value than an object, even if it’s a really cool object or useful. You beating someone for taking something is a bigger problem then things being taken. You can’t commit a crime because someone else also committed a crime first. Get it?

        • Ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          21 minutes ago

          I fully disagree and enjoy living in a society free of such barbaric tendencies.

          Make your people happy and maybe they’ll stop stealing your shit.

          • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            There are people who steal no matter how wealthy or comfortable they are. Theft is not stopped by making people happy. Reduced significantly, yes. But absolutely not stopped. Wage theft is the largest form of theft in the world, done exclusively by the better off and rich. Never forget that

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            Where do you live? I want your shit

            Not rhetorical, I personally want your shit

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      What about a pickpocket that stole a stupid iPhone from a rich teen who would get a new one the very next day? And, in some less frequent cases, the pickpocket may have had actual needs like buying medicine…

      That’s the reason we have a judicial system. Not even police are supposed to do harm, only prevent harm and bring into justice system.

      I know the system has many flaws. That’s beyond the point. Those who prefer to go vigilante are calling for making it worse. Specially if we take into account the effects of inequality on a hands-on self-service judicial approach…

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        58 minutes ago

        How’s the pickpocket to know the person in question’s situation? That’s one of the top justifications scammers in india use as to why they pretend what they do is reasonable. But reality is they don’t know, and they don’t care. They’ll steal from anyone.

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        2 hours ago

        Are you actually defending thieves?

        Why can’t the pickpocket go get a job and buy his own damn iPhone. My stuff is mine, you try to take it and I’ll hit you. This is like basic human behavior.

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        What about a pickpocket that stole a stupid iPhone from a rich teen who would get a new one the very next day? And, in some less frequent cases, the pickpocket may have had actual needs like buying medicine…

        Fuck Em.

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        3 hours ago

        But the judicial system famously doesn’t differentiate between people doing what they need to for good reasons and those doing it for bad reasons…

      • Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org
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        3 hours ago

        I know the system has many flaws. That’s beyond the point.

        That isn’t beyond the point. That is the point.

        Also you can make up sob stories about those people all day if you want to. Got nothing to do with reality but if you like to feel sad for them knock yourself out.