Not every joke involving gays, are bashing at homosexuality.
I do think jokes where the entire joke is that Donald Trump sucks dick is intended to be funny because homosexuality is taboo and sucking dick is considered bad, not just to Trump, but to people in general.
if you call someone a cocksucker, it’s obviously intended as an insult
telling me actually you think sucking cock is totally fine and it’s actually just about the hypocrisy of the cocksucker is not believable - that’s not why these memes succeed, people are just enjoying labeling Donald Trump as a cocksucker in a pejorative way
As a person who has sucked a cock or two, I appreciate your instinct to protect, but maybe this is an “I’m not comfortable making this joke, but they are allowed to” situation?
hm, I hear you - but I think that would have to be embedded in the context of the meme; it’s not like anyone knows you are a “cocksucker” (in a non-pejorative sense), let alone that you endorse sucking cock from the memes you share; the homophobic assumption that sucking cock is wrong and taboo is what makes the meme successful, and I don’t think anything changes from the fact that you don’t personally share that view and happen to be creating or sharing the meme
basically the homophobia is in the audience that interprets and receives the meme, the meme succeeds because it plays on that homophobia, and so the meme is “homophobic” in that sense
I have trouble imagining these memes being shared and being popular in the gay communities that I’m a part for that reason - the audience might find the implication that sucking cock is itself wrong as homophobic and uncomfortable, maybe a gay audience would recognize the hypocrisy and also understand the latent homophobia that makes the meme work, but I just don’t imagine it being as popular (and to be honest I’m not seeing it shared in those communities; nor would I personally feel comfortable sharing it in those communities)
it should be clarified that when I point out the homophobia, it’s not meant as some attempt to cancel the memes (let alone to indicate we should protect Trump out of some kind of concern for him as a homosexual), instead I’m just trying to point out reactionary threads, the way misogyny and homophobia are common even in anti-Trump sentiment
fuck Trump, obviously - but I’m not going to follow that up with “the cocksucker”
misinterpreting the common use of “fuck” as a way to convey disdain as actually articulating a sex-negative attitude is so non-serious it exposes your bad-faith 🙄
are you just upset that you didn’t have anything to offer, and this seemed clever to you?
either way, I’m blocking you for your bad faith; I am happy to waste time engaging with serious people, but I have no time for your silliness (if I can’t tell if you’re a troll, I’ll just assume you are one and block)
I do think jokes where the entire joke is that Donald Trump sucks dick is intended to be funny because homosexuality is taboo and sucking dick is considered bad, not just to Trump, but to people in general.
I’ve made plenty of those jokes by now, iæand i can tell you thats not the case for anyone i know 🤷♂️
The joke is a cult leader sucking cock while his cult hates cocksuckers 😂
But we don’t mention the cult in the jokes, because then the joke doesnt trigger them.
to be blunt, I don’t believe you
if you call someone a cocksucker, it’s obviously intended as an insult
telling me actually you think sucking cock is totally fine and it’s actually just about the hypocrisy of the cocksucker is not believable - that’s not why these memes succeed, people are just enjoying labeling Donald Trump as a cocksucker in a pejorative way
Its just funny cus it hurts his cult members feelings 🤷♂️ if they responded the same if i called him vegan, i’d be making salad memes all day
As a person who has sucked a cock or two, I appreciate your instinct to protect, but maybe this is an “I’m not comfortable making this joke, but they are allowed to” situation?
hm, I hear you - but I think that would have to be embedded in the context of the meme; it’s not like anyone knows you are a “cocksucker” (in a non-pejorative sense), let alone that you endorse sucking cock from the memes you share; the homophobic assumption that sucking cock is wrong and taboo is what makes the meme successful, and I don’t think anything changes from the fact that you don’t personally share that view and happen to be creating or sharing the meme
basically the homophobia is in the audience that interprets and receives the meme, the meme succeeds because it plays on that homophobia, and so the meme is “homophobic” in that sense
I have trouble imagining these memes being shared and being popular in the gay communities that I’m a part for that reason - the audience might find the implication that sucking cock is itself wrong as homophobic and uncomfortable, maybe a gay audience would recognize the hypocrisy and also understand the latent homophobia that makes the meme work, but I just don’t imagine it being as popular (and to be honest I’m not seeing it shared in those communities; nor would I personally feel comfortable sharing it in those communities)
it should be clarified that when I point out the homophobia, it’s not meant as some attempt to cancel the memes (let alone to indicate we should protect Trump out of some kind of concern for him as a homosexual), instead I’m just trying to point out reactionary threads, the way misogyny and homophobia are common even in anti-Trump sentiment
fuck Trump, obviously - but I’m not going to follow that up with “the cocksucker”
Is fucking bad? Because you just used it as an insult…
misinterpreting the common use of “fuck” as a way to convey disdain as actually articulating a sex-negative attitude is so non-serious it exposes your bad-faith 🙄
are you just upset that you didn’t have anything to offer, and this seemed clever to you?
either way, I’m blocking you for your bad faith; I am happy to waste time engaging with serious people, but I have no time for your silliness (if I can’t tell if you’re a troll, I’ll just assume you are one and block)