• Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
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    24 hours ago

    But isn’t it just sweeping the root cause under the rug until the next inevitable disaster? If you don’t remind them that it’s their doing, they will definitely ignore it and do the same thing again, with the same tragic results. I don’t know if reminding helps really, but keeping silence about it definitely doesn’t.
    When a child hurts itself, you need to establish cause and effect relationship in their head, otherwise they will hurt themselves again

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        16 hours ago

        If you think in this categories, then it doesn’t matter, the cause is already lost. If it’s “The Left vs Texans” then yeah, nothing will help.
        But, next time some disconnected idiot from Texas asks “why should I vote Democrats” you can point them out all the cases when not doing so hurt them specifically. This is what you called reveling in their demise.

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          13 hours ago

          You’re changing the point. I said we should stop with generalized FAFO. As in, we should not be poking fun or finding joy in people suffering the consequences of their vote. If we lose our humanity, we’re no better than those we oppose.

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            2 hours ago

            No, that was my point all along, you just refuse to see it. We need more generalized FAFO, we need to never shut up about it. It is not the same as mocking people for their misery, and it’s not done for joy (nor that it actually joyful, beyound the regular schadenfreude). It was very specific and very important purpose. A lot of those people can’t learn unless the example punches them in the face. They can’t feel empathy for other people, so they need to always be reminded that sometimes leopards are eating their faces. Asking them nicely didn’t help, never did.
            Unless we make the idea that their misery is directly correlated with their choices, they will all make the same choices again, and they don’t seem to be susceptible to new info when they’re not miserable.