• Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de
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      23 hours ago

      If you think in this categories, then it doesn’t matter, the cause is already lost. If it’s “The Left vs Texans” then yeah, nothing will help.
      But, next time some disconnected idiot from Texas asks “why should I vote Democrats” you can point them out all the cases when not doing so hurt them specifically. This is what you called reveling in their demise.

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        21 hours ago

        You’re changing the point. I said we should stop with generalized FAFO. As in, we should not be poking fun or finding joy in people suffering the consequences of their vote. If we lose our humanity, we’re no better than those we oppose.

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          9 hours ago

          No, that was my point all along, you just refuse to see it. We need more generalized FAFO, we need to never shut up about it. It is not the same as mocking people for their misery, and it’s not done for joy (nor that it actually joyful, beyound the regular schadenfreude). It was very specific and very important purpose. A lot of those people can’t learn unless the example punches them in the face. They can’t feel empathy for other people, so they need to always be reminded that sometimes leopards are eating their faces. Asking them nicely didn’t help, never did.
          Unless we make the idea that their misery is directly correlated with their choices, they will all make the same choices again, and they don’t seem to be susceptible to new info when they’re not miserable.

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            7 hours ago

            So you believe the best way to convince people to not be sociopathic towards their fellow countrymen is to treat them with the same callousness, devoid of empathy?

            You should really hold off on raising children until you understand human nature better.