• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    and that sometimes changes things for the better.

    And a lot of times it changes it for the worse, too. What even is this argument?

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      I don’t think you understand what it’s like to be constantly bullied and constantly on guard. At some point there is no concept of “worse”. At some point there is only the sense of “literally anything in the world except this.”

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        And I think you’d be shocked to find out how wrong you are. You’re describing my high school years. Guess what? Fighting back made it worse.

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          I’m genuinely sorry to hear that and I’m glad you made it out of there. But I stand by my point.

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            As do I. Sometimes the bullies genuinely have the upper hand. Like the Nazis versus the people in their concentration camps. Fighting back just lead to more violent retribution against those who were already being mistreated. You can’t magic your way into suddenly winning a losing battle. It’s absurdity after absurdity in here.

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              Fighting back just lead to more violent retribution against those who were already being mistreated

              This is what I meant when I said there’s no “worse”, just “different”. In a concentration or extermination camp I think it’s insane to blame any of the victims for what their captors do.

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                  It can also be a tie. Like you two right here, both presented fair arguments… Anyway, I think you took the “hypothetical situation” to another case. I was seeing an angry mob physically punishing 1 person (rightfully or not) accused of pickpocketing. So, the “winning” side was kind of guaranteed because it would be many against 1. And, in my case, I didn’t see any weapons. At least, those were the ‘real life’ situations I saw in the news on my home country a few times… it always saddened me. Hence, my opinions here in this thread. Sure, I didn’t consider that in the US 11 out of 10 people carry bazookas.