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Maybe the hip hop scene in Israel is counter cultural and represents the country’s opposed racial minorities?
Just off the dome. I haven’t looked.
Yeah it’s not really constructive for people to just immediately assume “you are a citizen of <insert nation here> and therefore you are 100% supportive of everything your government is doing.”
I also haven’t looked.
Appreciate your optimism on humanity, but sorry to disappoint, their music scene is 100% on board https://www.kveller.com/16-songs-that-shaped-israeli-music-after-october-7/
Maybe some obscure artist is different, but they are so obscure no one knows about them.
I mean, about 82% of Jewish Israeli were a-ok with ethnically cleansing Gaza. Source: Haaretz, TAZ (the last is a worker-owned coop, so pretty independent too!).
The other 18% is probably the counterculture and those are the real Israeli/Palestinians/others.
Something that I think is grim is that a Jewish friend with family in Israel told me that they strongly suspect that the percentage of Jewish Israelis okay with ethnic cleansing is a fair chunk lower than 82%, but that because the media landscape in Israel is so homogeneous, and there’s a lot of social stigma around being anti-genocide, that there are almost certainly people who don’t agree with the ethnic cleansing, but say they do due to the pressure of social shaming.
She went on to say that of course, the people who disagree inwardly but loudly agree outwardly are functionally the same as people who wholeheartedly agree with ethnic cleansing. However, this highlights how fucking tragic the state of Israel is even for Jewish Israelis; stuff like this is why she considers Israel to be an insult to Judaism. She has a small amount of sympathy for Zionism in theory, in that she understands why so many people felt like they would only be safe if there was a Jewish state. However, modern Zionism has taken an ideology that she already disagreed with, and turned it malignant — “and now we have a state that is in opposition to Judaism, through its endorsement of disgusting attitudes and actions in its Jewish citizens”.
I hadn’t considered it that way before, and it made me feel sad to reflect on figures like 82%. I don’t know what would be more tragic: if only 40% of people were actually pro-genocide, with the other 42% of people not being pro-genocide, but succumbing to social pressure and acting like they are; or if only 10% of people weren’t pro-genocide but too scared to speak out. Both of those options are depressing, but in different ways
Don’t forget the gay and trans Israelis who would rather go to jail than serve
I think you copy-pasted the wrong TAZ article. There is nothing in this article about an opinion poll of Israelis.
Did you look?
Off the Iron Dome?
tried to check the poster’s account to see if they could’ve meant it that way (censoring the username was my addition), apparently they either nuked themselves off tumblr or blocked me so
Have infected mushroom taken a stance on anything?
Not that I’ve seen, which is pretty disappointing. I heard they played a concert for Israeli troops a year or so ago, but I’m not 100% sure Last April I went to see them preform in Alberta Canada, I’ve been a fan for a long time. While at the concert someone flew an Israeli flag, after about 15 minutes it disappeared. Another man approached me and asked if I loved Infected Mushroom, I said “yaa” and then he proceeded to ask if I loved Israel. It was awkward. That’s not a reflection of the band focourse, a part of me understands that he probably wanted to connect, but like C’mon man Anyways it left a shitty taste in my mouth
Man, that highlights how unhinged Zionism is as an ideology
Bleh disappointing
Also does an Alberta not Canada even exist?
I mean sometimes there’s people named Alberta
maybe they wanted to specify that this happened in the province and not in some miniaturized theme park inside of a person
I would agree, but infected Mushroom is an awesome punk band name who would have some really good opinions on how how much shit IOF should eat.
