Same couod be said of unfunny forced memes

Twink is slim and smooth, you’re conflating connotation with denotation.

These days it’s more of a general term that implies vague queerness

No, that’s not what twink means.

That’s not what I said

They could have just left it, then, as it wasn’t endorsing tankies at all.

It’s not clearly correct though, as tankies are unpopular, there is absolutely more talk about them (i.e. normal people who like human rights) than there are tankies

My post was not whitewashing tankies, I don’t defend any human rights abuses and I disavow anyone who does.

Not a bad point, but that justifies a reply, not deletion. If that’s “whitewashing tankies” then I’m less likely to believe other removed posts were actually tanky.

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It’s almost as if an industrialized society needs to be socialized to an extent so the hoi polloi also sees the return on these labor reducing machines

Like if we the people create some sort of organization where we are all represented, and these labor reducing machines were owned by such an organization to work for everyone, that would give everyone the benefit of less required work.

would

Muscle without fat

Better Call Spy, the Breaking Bad prequel

what is his addition has barely anything to it

That is just demonstrably untrue, Somebody I Used to Know is transformative to the point to not be confused with the original, which cannot be said for Anxiety.

With this whole “not changing anything means it’s bad” standard

Didn’t say that.

Why are you saying she has to take more obscure samples?

Because her song is being mistaken for the one she is sampling, leading to people not liking her song and thinking she is unoriginal.

Again this is a pretty arbitrary standard to have. Sampling

Not really, proof is in the pudding. Ice Ice Baby is able to be confused for Under Pressure, so people think it’s unoriginal, same here. If it isn’t transformative enough, it is derivative.

I’m just pointing this out cos of the hypocrisy of calling her out on this front but then only having good words for Gotye.

It’s not hypocrisy, the Gotye song does not sound like the song the sample is from, whereas Anxiety sounds exactly like Somebody I Used to Know.

But there’s a difference between saying you don’t like it and thinking it’s bad.

Right, and I never said it’s bad

There’s plenty of stuff I don’t like personally but that I can appreciate has been done well

If the thing you appreciate from a song is not a part that artist added to the mix (for example, if you really like the bass line from Ice Ice Baby), where does the appreciation lay? Because that’s the crux that you don’t seem to grasp. People like the Gotye song because it’s more than the sum of its parts; it made something new. Whereas, as demonstrated by Anxiety being seen as “just Somebody I Used to Know with different lyrics,” it is not transformative or unique. As you mentioned, covers can bring something new to the table, or just be the same song with a different vibe. But it’s still the same song.

Or maybe the consensus is just that she didn’t do it well enough, or it was just too derivative, or any combination of things. To me it certainly feels like the music version of how Hollywood does reboot-sequels that’s basically the same movie but remade for modern audiences, I’d rather just watch the original.

Where’s the joke?

She did her own lyrics entirely (which are, in my opinion, a lot more creative than Gotye’s) and gave the song a different feel with her delivery

Well, that’s not enough, apparently, for many people. Gotye took 2 seconds of a classical guitar song and made a completely new song from it. The new girl just took that same new song and put her words on it. A change, sure, but still essentially the same song. New lyrics can make a song feel completely different, but that still means the rest of the song is the same song.

is the fact that Gotye was a bit creative with the instrumentation and she wasn’t really a reason to give her so much hate?

Criticism is not hate. If she makes a song that is a slightly tweaked version of a well known hit, she is going to be seen as derivative and uninspired.

Let’s be real too, most people hating on her don’t know Gotye also sampled

So she should take more obscure samples then? Isn’t that part of the art of sampling, taking something obscure and breathing something fresh into it? If people cannot even tell if your song is the original or not, then you didn’t change enough.

It’s such a wild thing to get so mad about

Who’s mad? You like the song, others don’t, both are valid.

So not “a world that increasingly refuses to acknowledge or meet our needs,” okay.

So it’s not like he’s gone on and done some great musicianship with it

This is kinda irrelevant? I mean that’s sampling in general, of course there is no “musicianship” in it, they’re playing someone else’s music.

People are acting like she’s taken his instrumentation and ruined it or something when it isn’t his, for the most part

Not really, people are saying she’s taken his sample, which she did, and made a derivative product which is self-evident from all the people who can’t tell the two songs apart until she starts singing, which doesn’t apply to the original as it’s truly a sample and not the same as the rest of the song.

I personally like both songs. I don’t get why people are so up in arms at her about it

Because hers is unoriginal. Taking a song from the 60s, sampling it, and making something new is one thing. Taking a song built from a sample, and basically just remixing it with your own lyrics, is not as creative or original. That’s the issue people take with it.

If you truly only take a sample from a song and build your own thing around it, people are a lot less up in arms about stealing music. See also Vanilla Ice and Under Pressure, where someone did not build enough of their own thing from a sample.

She simply fails the originality test.

the Gotye original’s is him sampling a song from the 60s and actually making it far simpler and less interesting

So… its distinct from the sample origin and stands as its own thing? Which is what people have a problem with the new song not doing?

What are you talking about, things have been getting more and more sex positive since the 1960s, you can literally buy sex toys at grocery stores now, you used to have to go to dingey little specialty shops for that