800 years? He had other sons and daughters, with who? His mom? His brothers? I know Christians love incest but 2 brothers can’t have kids AFAIK. So he had sex with his mom?
Problem is Genesis was written before the religion it was written for decided it was a monotheist religion that believed it was the only truth. So Yaweh created Adam and Eve, who had a couple of sons, one killed the other, but then that other went out and joined up with the other people made from other gods or titans or whatever, somehow convinced some of them to join his clan for a god that loved them, but then hated them because they sought knowledge (via eating fruit lol they really didn’t want their followers to be able to figure out shit to the point of even misdirecting them for how one obtains knowledge).
Where it falls apart even considering the original context is Noah’s flood, because that did apparently wipe everyone out except one mating pair per species, so how did Noah’s descendents repopulate the world without other populations to hook up with?
When I was about six, and discovered science and space, I got really into it. Pretty soon, the religious stuff I was hearing in Sunday School wasn’t jiving with the real science I was learning.
Where was Heaven? Where was Hell? Have scientists seen it? Do they know where it is? How can there be such places? If things like ghosts aren’t real, then how are these creatures real? I had another 100 unanswerable questions, easy, but they were unanswerable because there are no answers, because the entire thing is bullshit.
I knew that the minute my frustrated father finally just blustered “Nobody knows the answers to your questions. You just have to have FAITH!” And even at 6 or 7, that was it for me. I heard that for exactly what it was - it’s all nonsense, we all know it’s nonsense, but we’re going to pretend it’s real, and call it FAITH.
Well, not me. I remember becoming an atheist at that very moment in time, and I’ve never heard anything to change my mind.
Personally, I did change my mind from atheism to agnosticism just because a lack of evidence isn’t a proof and you can’t prove a negative. Established religions reek of control and manipulation, but I had to also conclude that it was naive to have faith that there isn’t anything more to whatever this reality is beyond what we can tell with science.
At the very least, there’s future scientific discoveries we can only guess at, but there’s also unknowable things, at least given the limitations we currently have as beings of this reality.
The proposed existence of unknowable things, however, isn’t an argument for the religious explanation. Claiming something is unknowable but then also supposing it might be this specific thing is contradictory. Draw the line at saying “we can’t know” not “you can’t prove it doesn’t exist”.
Also, that slippery scope where the same stance of “you can’t prove it doesn’t exist” applying to things like unicorns, space teapots, superheroes, midichlorians…
Yes, the only conclusion you can logically draw is that it’s impossible to know if they do or don’t exist. Instead of seeing the world as a set of ideas that either resolve to true or false, I see it as a set of ideas that resolve to true, false, or unknown.
Which also “resolves” a bunch of language paradoxes that depend on the only options being “true” or “false”. Like “this statement is false”. It also works on the halting problem, though still doesn’t make it trivial to solve (it just defeats the paradox proof if you allow a third option for paradoxes instead of insisting it only returns true or false).
Fucking thing’s got plot holes big enough for a sperm whale to swim through comfortably and yet it’s regarded as 100% literal truth by most lunatics governing us and most of the mouth breathers that voted for them.
There is nowhere information that God created Earth as first planet and first human there, there is information he created planet and things or at most a galaxy but there is no information nowhere that it was first planet or first galaxy. He just found empty spot in space. It’s pretty possible to do it if you could manipulate matter how you want and have unlimited energy source. That’s just terraforming to be honest.
800 years? He had other sons and daughters, with who? His mom? His brothers? I know Christians love incest but 2 brothers can’t have kids AFAIK. So he had sex with his mom?
Problem is Genesis was written before the religion it was written for decided it was a monotheist religion that believed it was the only truth. So Yaweh created Adam and Eve, who had a couple of sons, one killed the other, but then that other went out and joined up with the other people made from other gods or titans or whatever, somehow convinced some of them to join his clan for a god that loved them, but then hated them because they sought knowledge (via eating fruit lol they really didn’t want their followers to be able to figure out shit to the point of even misdirecting them for how one obtains knowledge).
Where it falls apart even considering the original context is Noah’s flood, because that did apparently wipe everyone out except one mating pair per species, so how did Noah’s descendents repopulate the world without other populations to hook up with?
When I was about six, and discovered science and space, I got really into it. Pretty soon, the religious stuff I was hearing in Sunday School wasn’t jiving with the real science I was learning.
Where was Heaven? Where was Hell? Have scientists seen it? Do they know where it is? How can there be such places? If things like ghosts aren’t real, then how are these creatures real? I had another 100 unanswerable questions, easy, but they were unanswerable because there are no answers, because the entire thing is bullshit.
I knew that the minute my frustrated father finally just blustered “Nobody knows the answers to your questions. You just have to have FAITH!” And even at 6 or 7, that was it for me. I heard that for exactly what it was - it’s all nonsense, we all know it’s nonsense, but we’re going to pretend it’s real, and call it FAITH.
Well, not me. I remember becoming an atheist at that very moment in time, and I’ve never heard anything to change my mind.
Personally, I did change my mind from atheism to agnosticism just because a lack of evidence isn’t a proof and you can’t prove a negative. Established religions reek of control and manipulation, but I had to also conclude that it was naive to have faith that there isn’t anything more to whatever this reality is beyond what we can tell with science.
At the very least, there’s future scientific discoveries we can only guess at, but there’s also unknowable things, at least given the limitations we currently have as beings of this reality.
The proposed existence of unknowable things, however, isn’t an argument for the religious explanation. Claiming something is unknowable but then also supposing it might be this specific thing is contradictory. Draw the line at saying “we can’t know” not “you can’t prove it doesn’t exist”.
Also, that slippery scope where the same stance of “you can’t prove it doesn’t exist” applying to things like unicorns, space teapots, superheroes, midichlorians…
Yes, the only conclusion you can logically draw is that it’s impossible to know if they do or don’t exist. Instead of seeing the world as a set of ideas that either resolve to true or false, I see it as a set of ideas that resolve to true, false, or unknown.
Which also “resolves” a bunch of language paradoxes that depend on the only options being “true” or “false”. Like “this statement is false”. It also works on the halting problem, though still doesn’t make it trivial to solve (it just defeats the paradox proof if you allow a third option for paradoxes instead of insisting it only returns true or false).
Fucking thing’s got plot holes big enough for a sperm whale to swim through comfortably and yet it’s regarded as 100% literal truth by most lunatics governing us and most of the mouth breathers that voted for them.
That’s why Jesus was sent to retcon most of it and replace it with “just don’t be a dick”.
They nailed him to a tree for that.
There is nowhere information that God created Earth as first planet and first human there, there is information he created planet and things or at most a galaxy but there is no information nowhere that it was first planet or first galaxy. He just found empty spot in space. It’s pretty possible to do it if you could manipulate matter how you want and have unlimited energy source. That’s just terraforming to be honest.
He had a wife called Eve. Surprised you missed that small detail.