I know broadly that the left has pretty much abandoned any talk making people’s personal lives better and instead has tripled down on the idea that “bad people are bad” for the sake of some lofty and impossible ideal of a star-trek world so liberals can broadly feel like they’re a part of some social good. Look at the votes here now, we have created a reactionary space exactly like the right.
Dare suggest that young men have ANY problems? STRAIGHT TO THE NAZI-RIGHT WITH YOU. Never mind that these are kids who have never felt an ounce of privilege in their lives, so telling them they’re entitled instead of talking to them and giving advice for getting girls and romance just pushes them away. But it just feels so good to hate a side though, right???
But that damage is done. We have a massive rightward swing in the US because we mismanaged fucking talking to each other. Like tripping and breaking your skull while laying in bed. We deserve this mess honestly.
We have created spaces where people with any differences are segregated and you will get roasted in places like this for reminding delusional lefties that even if we got our socialist revolution (which someone else will lead, aannnny day now), we would still have to live next to hundreds of millions of people who didn’t want it. That usually draws a lot of ire because it’s not optimistic enough and involves the uncomfortable truth that we share a world with people who aren’t going to always “get it” and we need to work, live and talk amongst them. Forever.
Where i’m baffled though is the basic math. Younger people are having less and less sex and relationships, people are broadly staying single and not dating or having any intimacy well into adulthood and often have NO plans to date or have a family even, so how is this eruption of sweaty used-car-salesmen making traction? There are no success stories, it’s entirely manufactured. It’s no different than the flat-earth movement but for pudgy white teenage boys.
We are a species that rather withdraw into our own narratives than face reality and it will be our great filter.
Where i’m baffled though is the basic math. Younger people are having less and less sex and relationships, people are broadly staying single and not dating or having any intimacy well into adulthood and often have NO plans to date or have a family even, so how is this eruption of sweaty used-car-salesmen making traction? There are no success stories, it’s entirely manufactured. It’s no different than the flat-earth movement but for pudgy white teenage boys.
The “success story” is Andrew Tate, and probably even people like Musk or Trump. They see how extremely misogynistic people manage to get with multiple women nonetheless and get fooled into thinking being “stoic” and generally a jerk is the key to getting laid. They don’t realize that those people are just rich and are getting laid despite their personality, not thanks to it.
Then there’s also the ones who are fully aware of this and are sold on the “grind mentality”, so that they can get rich like them (again, missing the point on how all of them either did it through crimes, were born rich, or both).
Of course if you look at it with some logic it all falls apart, but you can’t expect young people to have enough knowledge to do this. They need some positive role model to tell them right from wrong, but it’s becoming increasingly hard when the negative ones keep springing up like mushrooms.
How is someone who beats wives and rapes children alike a success story? Applies to both.
How is someone a success story, when they get into crippling debt and can’t even get their dick up, yet claim to be the perfect image of a virile guy?
For me, as one of those “success stories”, true success lies in empathy and respect. Hard work must be used to give back to society, and whoever gives not back, must be respectfully shunned and made to give back, until they reach out and ask for help; and then answer is given in the form of unionising, protesting against oligarchies trying to break down mental health facilities, protesting against hatred that must fail to divide us.
Types that may seem beyond saving, I think can be saved; if they radicalised once, they can deradicalise once again. But it does require effort.
I know broadly that the left has pretty much abandoned any talk making people’s personal lives better and instead has tripled down on the idea that “bad people are bad” for the sake of some lofty and impossible ideal of a star-trek world so liberals can broadly feel like they’re a part of some social good. Look at the votes here now, we have created a reactionary space exactly like the right.
Dare suggest that young men have ANY problems? STRAIGHT TO THE NAZI-RIGHT WITH YOU. Never mind that these are kids who have never felt an ounce of privilege in their lives, so telling them they’re entitled instead of talking to them and giving advice for getting girls and romance just pushes them away. But it just feels so good to hate a side though, right???
But that damage is done. We have a massive rightward swing in the US because we mismanaged fucking talking to each other. Like tripping and breaking your skull while laying in bed. We deserve this mess honestly.
We have created spaces where people with any differences are segregated and you will get roasted in places like this for reminding delusional lefties that even if we got our socialist revolution (which someone else will lead, aannnny day now), we would still have to live next to hundreds of millions of people who didn’t want it. That usually draws a lot of ire because it’s not optimistic enough and involves the uncomfortable truth that we share a world with people who aren’t going to always “get it” and we need to work, live and talk amongst them. Forever.
Where i’m baffled though is the basic math. Younger people are having less and less sex and relationships, people are broadly staying single and not dating or having any intimacy well into adulthood and often have NO plans to date or have a family even, so how is this eruption of sweaty used-car-salesmen making traction? There are no success stories, it’s entirely manufactured. It’s no different than the flat-earth movement but for pudgy white teenage boys.
We are a species that rather withdraw into our own narratives than face reality and it will be our great filter.
The “success story” is Andrew Tate, and probably even people like Musk or Trump. They see how extremely misogynistic people manage to get with multiple women nonetheless and get fooled into thinking being “stoic” and generally a jerk is the key to getting laid. They don’t realize that those people are just rich and are getting laid despite their personality, not thanks to it.
Then there’s also the ones who are fully aware of this and are sold on the “grind mentality”, so that they can get rich like them (again, missing the point on how all of them either did it through crimes, were born rich, or both).
Of course if you look at it with some logic it all falls apart, but you can’t expect young people to have enough knowledge to do this. They need some positive role model to tell them right from wrong, but it’s becoming increasingly hard when the negative ones keep springing up like mushrooms.
But that’s the thing. Tate isn’t a success story.
How is someone who beats wives and rapes children alike a success story? Applies to both.
How is someone a success story, when they get into crippling debt and can’t even get their dick up, yet claim to be the perfect image of a virile guy?
For me, as one of those “success stories”, true success lies in empathy and respect. Hard work must be used to give back to society, and whoever gives not back, must be respectfully shunned and made to give back, until they reach out and ask for help; and then answer is given in the form of unionising, protesting against oligarchies trying to break down mental health facilities, protesting against hatred that must fail to divide us.
Types that may seem beyond saving, I think can be saved; if they radicalised once, they can deradicalise once again. But it does require effort.