go for alternative and wholistic chiropractors not mainstream ones. and stop spouting the American chemical medicine propaganda that any and all alternative medicines are shit. sure you can’t fix genetic shit with a chiropractor… but you are more likely to heal faster from a physical injury with a chiropractor than using meds and a physical therapist (by about 2-3 months depending on the injury severity).
but don’t worry. I know it’s hard for you and the other idiots here to accept anything that doesn’t get you insurance covered drugs (opioids) to make all your worries go night-night. after all… real lifestyle changes are hard for fat, drunk, lazy, and stupid people like you.
You know what they call alternative medicine that works? It’s called medicine.
Is the healthcare system designed to extract as much value as possible from people? Absolutely, but unlike a chiropractor they aren’t likely to leave your paralyzed from a routine visit. “Alternative medicine” only really exists due to a historical choice by the FDA to not regulate supplements back when supplements were an absolutely tiny market and now the supplement industry is as big as the regulated medicine industry. One of these things is regulated so it won’t kill you/destroy your life, the other isn’t. I’d rather take the safer route.
Safe like the hundreds of FDA approved drugs that later turned out to be deadly? or safe like the FDA approved drugs that were found to be placebo effects? safe like the pills that have more warning labels on them than a nuke? or safe like the e-stims used by physical therapists that ended up hurting patients because there weren’t limits set on their usage?
oh and my personal favorites since you mentioned them. all of the FDA approved supplements that turned out to be terrible. like the Modern Warrior Ready capsules.
Some of the FDA’s biggest fuckups:
opioids-- addiction
Diethylstilbestrol (DES), 1971 – cancer
Bextra, 2005 – toxic epidermal necrolysis which had a 50% lethality rate
Vioxx, 2004 – the FDA ignored evidence of harm for years
Fen-Phen, 1997 – the FDA ignored reports of horrific side-effects until a woman died
Darvon/Darvocet – it took the FDA 50+ years to remove this after approving in it 1957
other fuckups by the FDA:
slow response to contaminated baby food
approving known risky drugs like Aduhelm
allowing purposefully misleading marketing
in 2017 an FDA inspector found serious issues with a Chinese manufacturing plant. superiors in the FDA ordered the issue to be ignored and even suppressed.
Pharma kickbacks for approval of drugs (Pharma pays FDA to approve without testing)
FDA director who took bribes to approve aspartame
The protein scandal in China where the FDA knew that the tested samples were being spiked and the FDA looked the other way letting around 300000 children get sick, with around 54000 hospitalized and 6 babies died.
The FDA has a history of ignoring recommendations from advisory committees, taking bribes to let drugs pass inspection, and even knowingly buries evidence of fraud in medical trials.
so yes let’s make the FDA’s word on what is and isn’t ok… law.
A physical therapist can leave you paralyzed after a single visit. you going to call them hacks and refuse to use them as well? and are you going to use contaminated medication just because the FDA says it’s safe? cause that’s the logic you are using.
but yes… tell me how the FDA which is controlled by the US government is the god of all health care.
The nice thing about science is that it can reevaluate studies, correct mistakes, make new discoveries… Science-based medicine is not and will never be perfect, but has the potential to get better and better. Methods not proven by science to be beneficial are not trustworthy, and it doesn’t matter whether they’re viewed as part of mainstream or alternative medicine.
it’s an interesting read about the American Medical Association written by the American Medical Association.
diving further into Steven Novella (the leading critic of chiropractic care), I found multiple articles about how he would constantly use the same tactics and claims used by AMA back before a Judge ruled that their allegations were false and that their tactics were a violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act. and by that I mean he used the exact same claims nearly word for word, pointing to the same exact events in time that the AMA did. – as in his source links in the majority of his criticisms of chiropractors can be found in the above link.
most of Steven Novella’s articles also make claims to him being attacked by quacks and hacks. which is kinda funny considering that his mentor was a member of that disbanded “Committee on Quackery”. It’s obvious where his loyalties lie. with “clearing” his mentor’s name and whitewashing the war on chiropractic care.
He does good work in other fields. however… he has an extreme bias against chiropractors which prevents him from being objective.
go for alternative and wholistic chiropractors not mainstream ones. and stop spouting the American chemical medicine propaganda that any and all alternative medicines are shit. sure you can’t fix genetic shit with a chiropractor… but you are more likely to heal faster from a physical injury with a chiropractor than using meds and a physical therapist (by about 2-3 months depending on the injury severity).
but don’t worry. I know it’s hard for you and the other idiots here to accept anything that doesn’t get you insurance covered drugs (opioids) to make all your worries go night-night. after all… real lifestyle changes are hard for fat, drunk, lazy, and stupid people like you.
You know what they call alternative medicine that works? It’s called medicine.
Is the healthcare system designed to extract as much value as possible from people? Absolutely, but unlike a chiropractor they aren’t likely to leave your paralyzed from a routine visit. “Alternative medicine” only really exists due to a historical choice by the FDA to not regulate supplements back when supplements were an absolutely tiny market and now the supplement industry is as big as the regulated medicine industry. One of these things is regulated so it won’t kill you/destroy your life, the other isn’t. I’d rather take the safer route.
Safe like the hundreds of FDA approved drugs that later turned out to be deadly? or safe like the FDA approved drugs that were found to be placebo effects? safe like the pills that have more warning labels on them than a nuke? or safe like the e-stims used by physical therapists that ended up hurting patients because there weren’t limits set on their usage?
oh and my personal favorites since you mentioned them. all of the FDA approved supplements that turned out to be terrible. like the Modern Warrior Ready capsules.
Some of the FDA’s biggest fuckups:
opioids-- addiction
Diethylstilbestrol (DES), 1971 – cancer
Bextra, 2005 – toxic epidermal necrolysis which had a 50% lethality rate
Vioxx, 2004 – the FDA ignored evidence of harm for years
Fen-Phen, 1997 – the FDA ignored reports of horrific side-effects until a woman died
Darvon/Darvocet – it took the FDA 50+ years to remove this after approving in it 1957
other fuckups by the FDA:
slow response to contaminated baby food
approving known risky drugs like Aduhelm
allowing purposefully misleading marketing
in 2017 an FDA inspector found serious issues with a Chinese manufacturing plant. superiors in the FDA ordered the issue to be ignored and even suppressed.
Pharma kickbacks for approval of drugs (Pharma pays FDA to approve without testing)
FDA director who took bribes to approve aspartame
The protein scandal in China where the FDA knew that the tested samples were being spiked and the FDA looked the other way letting around 300000 children get sick, with around 54000 hospitalized and 6 babies died.
The FDA has a history of ignoring recommendations from advisory committees, taking bribes to let drugs pass inspection, and even knowingly buries evidence of fraud in medical trials.
so yes let’s make the FDA’s word on what is and isn’t ok… law.
A physical therapist can leave you paralyzed after a single visit. you going to call them hacks and refuse to use them as well? and are you going to use contaminated medication just because the FDA says it’s safe? cause that’s the logic you are using.
but yes… tell me how the FDA which is controlled by the US government is the god of all health care.
The nice thing about science is that it can reevaluate studies, correct mistakes, make new discoveries… Science-based medicine is not and will never be perfect, but has the potential to get better and better. Methods not proven by science to be beneficial are not trustworthy, and it doesn’t matter whether they’re viewed as part of mainstream or alternative medicine.
https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/chiropractics-fight-survival/2011-06
another more in depth article on the trial and fallout of the AMA’s corruption:
https://chiro.org/Wilk/Wilk_v_AMA_25_Years_Later.shtml
it’s an interesting read about the American Medical Association written by the American Medical Association.
diving further into Steven Novella (the leading critic of chiropractic care), I found multiple articles about how he would constantly use the same tactics and claims used by AMA back before a Judge ruled that their allegations were false and that their tactics were a violation of the Sherman Antitrust Act. and by that I mean he used the exact same claims nearly word for word, pointing to the same exact events in time that the AMA did. – as in his source links in the majority of his criticisms of chiropractors can be found in the above link.
most of Steven Novella’s articles also make claims to him being attacked by quacks and hacks. which is kinda funny considering that his mentor was a member of that disbanded “Committee on Quackery”. It’s obvious where his loyalties lie. with “clearing” his mentor’s name and whitewashing the war on chiropractic care.
He does good work in other fields. however… he has an extreme bias against chiropractors which prevents him from being objective.