• Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    9 days ago

    Even if you go by that logic what do you think cows eat? Way more soy beans are fed to a cow to produce the same amount of food for a human compared to if that human just ate the soy themselves. Veganism saves plant lives too.

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      8 days ago

      cattle hardly eat any of the global soy crop. and only about 7% of the global soy crop is fed directly to animals. most of what is fed to livestock is the industrial waste from pressing soybeans for oil

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                  8 days ago

                  your own last link has a chart that shows soy use. do you see how (almost) every bit of soy fed to livestock is soycake/soy meal? that is the byproduct of pressing soybeans for oil. if we didn’t give it to livestock, it would be industrial waste.

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                    What world are you on? Approximately 13% to 20% of the world’s soy is used directly for oil (both human consumption and industrial/biofuel use). While nearly 77% of global soybean production is crushed for animal feed.

                    If you think different I’m open to being shown otherwise but it looks like you’re straight wrong.

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        8 days ago

        industrial waste from pressing soybeans for oil

        That’s not waste, humans can and do eat it, ie. TVP and we’d probably eat a lot more of it if we cut down on meat consumption as it’s a great source of protein. This is like saying chicken feet are industrial waste because people don’t consume them proportionally to breast, thigh, leg etc. meat.

        Even if cattle don’t consume much soy as a percentage they are still less efficient then if we just eat what they eat because of trophic loss. If we want to save more plants and preserve more ecosystems for wild plants we need to reduce the land footprint of our diets, and the best way to do that is to eat less meat.

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          8 days ago

          as you said, people already eat tvp. but not enough of it to prevent 69% of the global crop from becoming industrial waste