• Dave@lemmy.nz
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    2 days ago

    These Nurse Practitioners are presumably already required to be highly skilled nurses? Please tell me that’s true 😑

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      2 days ago

      Nope. They can (and these days often do) go straight from their nursing degree to an NP program with no real work experience.

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          As a patient, you do have the right to refuse to be treated by anyone. You may have to wait for a physician to be available, but no one can treat you without your consent and you can always ask for a provider’s title and licensure.

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            I don’t think I’ve ever been to a Nurse Practitioner without knowing exactly what the outcome would be, and realistically that does take a lot of burden off doctors so long as they correctly recognise what they should and shouldn’t do.

            I expect that rules will catch up with the existence of LLMs, the problem is for those few generations that have to live through the transition period…

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              13 hours ago

              A huge piece of a physician’s medical training is knowing what questions to ask (as well as how and when to ask) to uncover the sneaky things that aren’t apparent on the surface. For example, as a 4th year medical student, I had a patient in the ER that came in with shortness of breath, fatigue, and chest discomfort. There were a couple hints of red flags, so I asked more questions that didn’t seem like they were related at all. Was he having unintended weight changes, night sweats, or changes to his bowel movements? The answer to all three was “yes”, but he had no idea why I was asking about that when he was there for breathing problems. I had a suspicion that he was having complications from metastatic cancer, and I was right. The resident I was working with hadn’t even thought to dig into those other niggling suspicions and was more focused on cardiac and pulmonary causes of chest pain and breathing problems.

              I can almost guarantee that a nurse practitioner wouldn’t have asked those questions either. I keyed into some very subtle signs on his exam which prompted me to dig deeper, but NP’s aren’t even really trained on how to get a deeper history, let alone when to do so.