And do you think that you will somehow still be conscious after you die? Your ability to experience will not exist when you die either. I thought that was common sense, but apparently not.
One thing that has helped me get out of this nihilistic trap sounds a but mystical but bear with me: The self and your perception of it is a construct of your brain. In reality all conscious beings are the same. You are me and I am you, we experience as one, just with different experiences. Future generations will experience the world for us just as we are experiencing it now for the past.
I dunno if I’d call it a “trap”. I believe there is one mega-soul, splintered throughout space and time into every consciousness. I am the splinter that exists in my particular body, you are the splinter in yours. The conditions of our bodies and our experiences color those splinters in unique ways.
Yeah, the fragmented oversoul will continue to experience the world into the future, but it won’t be through the eyes of this body, through its particular frameworks and perspectives.
Like yes, the soul deep down is the same, but I am a unique perspective of the soul, and I would like to have experiences and achieve things. Zen enlightenment is peaceful and all, but it’s boring. If we were meant to be perfectly accepting of unity for eternity, we wouldn’t have emerged into the material plane in the first place.
“Experienced” is a poor term to use when describing nonexistence. You weren’t there, there was no mind, there was no you, thusly there is no memory and even if there were, it would be of nothing.
The notion is more that because you did not exist, you had no mind, no consciousness and thusly there was simply nothing. Not you, not an experience for you to absorb.
it’s a weird concept because there is no way to really describe it that relates to anything we know. We know ONLY of existing. We can’t know of not existing because not existing precludes the ability to be cognizant of it.
It’s one of those things you just have to accept. When we die, we simply cease to exist (unless you believe in an afterlife). The closest thing that I’ve experienced to being aware of non-existence is being put under general anthesia. You are lying there with doctors and nurses peering down at you over their masks, wearing their funny little hats, they tell you to count backward, by the time you get to two and a half, you’re gone. When you do eventually come back around, you just have a big empty spot that you time traveled through. No dreams, no thoughts, no awareness, just nothing.
The only difference with death is the whole not coming back around bit. Of course, since you will not exist, you will not be concerned with that part because you will not be.
No, it is undeniable. Remember all those billions upon billions of years before you were born where you didn’t exist? No? That is exactly what death will be like.
both situations involve unconsciousness. I’m not saying there is nothing in the after life and I know that, I’m saying the sensation is similar in both situations IF there is nothing else after life.
I’m not putting any more effort into this conversation. Peace.
Have I though? I don’t think my ability to “experience” existed prior to my birth.
And do you think that you will somehow still be conscious after you die? Your ability to experience will not exist when you die either. I thought that was common sense, but apparently not.
Right, which is exactly what makes the middle period of existence, while brief, extremely appealing.
One thing that has helped me get out of this nihilistic trap sounds a but mystical but bear with me: The self and your perception of it is a construct of your brain. In reality all conscious beings are the same. You are me and I am you, we experience as one, just with different experiences. Future generations will experience the world for us just as we are experiencing it now for the past.
I dunno if I’d call it a “trap”. I believe there is one mega-soul, splintered throughout space and time into every consciousness. I am the splinter that exists in my particular body, you are the splinter in yours. The conditions of our bodies and our experiences color those splinters in unique ways.
Yeah, the fragmented oversoul will continue to experience the world into the future, but it won’t be through the eyes of this body, through its particular frameworks and perspectives.
Like yes, the soul deep down is the same, but I am a unique perspective of the soul, and I would like to have experiences and achieve things. Zen enlightenment is peaceful and all, but it’s boring. If we were meant to be perfectly accepting of unity for eternity, we wouldn’t have emerged into the material plane in the first place.
“Experienced” is a poor term to use when describing nonexistence. You weren’t there, there was no mind, there was no you, thusly there is no memory and even if there were, it would be of nothing.
The notion is more that because you did not exist, you had no mind, no consciousness and thusly there was simply nothing. Not you, not an experience for you to absorb.
it’s a weird concept because there is no way to really describe it that relates to anything we know. We know ONLY of existing. We can’t know of not existing because not existing precludes the ability to be cognizant of it.
It’s one of those things you just have to accept. When we die, we simply cease to exist (unless you believe in an afterlife). The closest thing that I’ve experienced to being aware of non-existence is being put under general anthesia. You are lying there with doctors and nurses peering down at you over their masks, wearing their funny little hats, they tell you to count backward, by the time you get to two and a half, you’re gone. When you do eventually come back around, you just have a big empty spot that you time traveled through. No dreams, no thoughts, no awareness, just nothing.
The only difference with death is the whole not coming back around bit. Of course, since you will not exist, you will not be concerned with that part because you will not be.
Using “thusly” in the shitposting community is a new type of irony. Not at all judging just found it a very fun coincidence lmao
chill, isn’t this like a shit post sub
Why u think I’m not shitposting?
big words and thoughts for my stupid little brain to comprehend.
can’t experience without being alive. 🧬
You now understand EXACTLY what death will be. Your ability to “experience” will no longer exist.
Right, so “you’ve experienced nothingness void before” is bullshit
No, it is undeniable. Remember all those billions upon billions of years before you were born where you didn’t exist? No? That is exactly what death will be like.
You’ve experienced falling asleep. Same difference.
Oh? Based on what evidence?
You haven’t fallen asleep?
When you sleep there is a time where you are not conscious, that is what a “nothing” afterlife would be like, which we’ve all experienced.
Based on…?
lmao
bruh
both situations involve unconsciousness. I’m not saying there is nothing in the after life and I know that, I’m saying the sensation is similar in both situations IF there is nothing else after life.
I’m not putting any more effort into this conversation. Peace.