I think maybe ‘you just don’t get’ how to support your position.

Maybe I’m just frustrated with the discussion. Plenty of other people have explained the position very eloquently, but it still falls on deaf ears.

By “these people”, I mean people who just don’t get it.

It’s like talking to a wall with these people.

Your real name and location data have been stored in UNIX/Linux for over 60 years.

IF you entered that info. And it wasn’t being used by applications to enable surveillance laws. It’s a false equivalency.

I think it’s blatantly obvious we weren’t born on January 1970, year 1. January only has 30 days, not 1970.

I’ll believe that if and when they actually force me to upload identification to prove that my birthday really is 1970-01-01 and my name really is Nunya Bissnis

It’ll be too late by that point. Way way way too late.

Contact your representative

Right, so that they can ask if I’m stoned or stupid for asking them to affect laws in another country?

It’s being added as a response to the age verification laws with the intended purpose to provide the age signal.

It’s age verification/attestation.

I was ambivalent about systemd up until now. If this gets merged I’m moving to a non-systemd distro. I do not live in California or even the USA. I do not want age verification garbage in my OS.

Especially if the company is a Microsoft shop to begin with.

Nonsense, MS has an Intune client for Linux.

The IT security teams just don’t know how to enforce the company policies on Linux machines

Too bad. Skill issue. They need to learn how to manage Linux just like any other new tech.

What about Windows?

Every Microsoft forum suggestion:

sfc /scannow

I see that as full UI/UX behaviour that behaves almost identical to Windows/Mac (is no middle click to paste).

Linux is not Windows. Stop trying to make it work like Windows. Windows is crap and I don’t want Linux to work like it.

Expecting Linux to work like Windows is how new people get frustrated. Have you heard anyone say that macOS needs to be like Windows to succeed? Of course not. So stop saying that about Linux.

Also, “no middle-click to paste” is astonishingly stupid, I’ve been using it hundreds of times per day for way over a decade now. It’s one of the most useful and helpful features I’ve ever used.

Without “App” though, that slipped through because someone wrote “the Microsoft 365 Copilot app”

That makes it semi-official. If Microslop put that on their official website for the product, that makes it official to a degree.

They did not fucking rename Microsoft Office.

Well, you’re half right, except Microsoft did rename Office years ago to “Microsoft 365”.

Edit: ignore the “Microslop” spelling. I have a uBlock filter enabled.

Microsoft 365 Copilot App

That’s the official name

Would a VM not work? Seems like the perfect use case for a VM.

I am not looking for software alternatives.

Then just use Windows or a Mac.

But it’s still Windows.

Doesn’t matter how much hot sauce and cinnamon you dunno on to a turd, it’s still a turd.

is still clunky compared to others.

Wut?

It’s true for any variation of Linux. Hell, the vulnerability (Mimikatz) that was crucial in the most expensive cyber security attack in history is still there in Windows.

And for X11 to be exploited you would need to get and run malicious code in the first place. The Linux security model kicks in before you get to that point.