You can hide those porn games in your preferences at least. Not the same, but at least you don’t have to see them if you don’t want to. It even distinguishes between games that have nudity/sex and those that are flat out porn.
Yep, it’s under account details then store preferences. I posted this in another comment somewhere else in the thread but here’s a screen grab of it on mobile.
I think several of them are not shown by default, and the user has to go grant permissions to see them. I don’t remember where the line is drawn though (outright sex games, full nudity, mild, etc.)
Y’know what? I’ll disagree with you there, let the porn games be on Steam. BUT! Do a thorough quality and content check (i.e. no rape, kiddy diddling, spousal abuse, any other type of abuse, etc.) on ALL of them, and throw the slop away. Then do this for every other genre, and make the porn harder to find - like the video store backroom.
Edit: Steam should assume more curation roles. I mean, even SOME curation roles, because the Steam library looks like my old dorm room the morning after my birthday party: filled with trash, vomit, and loneliness.
Edit 2: speaking of video store backrooms, maybe they could do just that, branch off that section of the library and set it on its own domain, like a Steam After Dark, or whatever.
Edit 3: STEAMY AFTER DARK! I want my 10.000 Internet Points NOW!
I am not being glib, I simply don’t know how else to respond to “why not allow games about raping people, or paedophilia, or abusing people in a romantic context” other than with “because all of those things are objectively unconscionable.” And, yes, I’d argue that they are all worse than Video Game Violence™ even when just taken within the “it’s just vidya” context.
I dunno, I fully accept that it may be just getting old and outdated, but… I genuinely can’t see that stuff otherwise, nor could I agree with the distribution of such stuff out of the same website on which you can also get, like, Tiny Tots’ Fluffy Fun Town Adventure, the hit platformer for 1-year-olds, y’know?
I’m not stupid enough to believe that such stuff will never exist, as I’ve seen it exist already. Like, ok, but that’s different. Horrid stuff will exist in one way or another, there’s still a market for snuff films and such, ok I can accept that as an inevitability. But it’s one thing for It to exist, and another to sell It as one would a can of soda, in full view and reach of just anyone.
Also porn games will keep getting delisted and removed because ultimately it’s the payment processors powering the store that have the final say. And nobody there is interested in indulging in your content checks, they have their own.
Do a thorough quality and content check (i.e. no rape, kiddy diddling, spousal abuse, any other type of abuse, etc.) on ALL of them, and throw the slop away. Then do this for every other genre
There are games that talk about or depict abuse as part of their story line. I think adults can be trusted to engage with art that has adult themes. In the end the hardest part (of letting adults in but not kids) is enforcement, games are rated for that reason but it’s on parents to care.
And I was referring more to games which have you abuse other characters, broaching abuse as an element and studying it for what it is is ok. Hell, I’d even argue we need more games which show the effects and repercussions of abuse…
It doesn’t matter if it’s done by a playable or non-playable character in my opinion. My litmus test is if you can write a book with it’s depictions, then you can show it in a game too. The only difference is the audience.
edit: and by “write” I mean “without it becoming a hateful manifesto”. also I’m not talking strictly about steam here, but anything that uses those payment processors
Fair enough, should’ve phrased it as “where the abuse is presented as a positive in any way, or is the goal in order to obtain gratification,” what you said is essentially what I was thinking:))
I think a lot of people understood that I wanted to start a censorship war with porn, but it’s not at all what I meant. I would just keep the inhuman, the monstruous stuff away from shelves, and by that I don’t mean kinks and such.
Not even Nintendo, who for a long time branded itself as the most family oriented company in videogames, is doing any sort of proper curation for stuff entering their shop. Unlike Steam, they don’t even care to label whether the slop has AI or not
But it’s pretty clear Nintendo’s almost exclusively in it for the money and nothing else at this point. I wouldn’t even expect them to curate anything, quite the contrary, I expect everything Nintendo-wise to keep getting worse.
Steam, on the other hand, still has hints that it primarily wants to be a one-stop-app for gaming, which is why I believe there would still be room for them to “own it,” y’know?
Tangential, but in my steam library, there is a single anime game, a free bullet hell that I pretty quickly realized was both too difficult and annoying for me. The main character’s voice was so piercingly shrill that I had to mute all voices to survive using a super move without experiencing an aneurysm.
Now my recommendations are all hentai jigsaw puzzles, and I don’t even particularly like jigsaw puzzles or hentai. Steam doesn’t seem like the sort of company to abandon porn, if that was all it took to get them to advertise it to me.
I feel ridiculous for not remembering this. I set everything to visible because I expected some pornographic masterpiece of gameplay to somehow fall in my lap like 10 years ago. Thank you, now I can browse steam in public.
Realistically it’s not crazy to be at least a little bit upset with the sheerfuckingnumber of them. I just wanted to make sure you and others knew that you can hide those smut games without hiding like everything with any NSFW content in it.
I personally enabled it a long time ago because I didn’t want anything I didn’t directly hide in the store to be hidden from me. Changed my mind after being inundated by the sheer fucking number of them. It was like half my damn recommendations sometimes.
I’m not sure if that was the company, but it was certainly in that style. iirc, it was a fan game, but don’t quote me. I saw some video on black midis and wanted to try a game that incorporated similar music,
I wish Steam didn’t have porn on it
but I double-plus wish that Steam didn’t stop hosting porn only because of payment companies with outsized control over creative expression
It’s thatbsimple rule: if you don’t want it don’t subscribe to it. Leave it for those who enjoy it.
especially that there’s been easy set and forget filters for that kind of games for ages
especially that there’s been easy set and forget filters for that kind of games for ages
Filters that I’m fairly certain are even on by default.
You can hide those porn games in your preferences at least. Not the same, but at least you don’t have to see them if you don’t want to. It even distinguishes between games that have nudity/sex and those that are flat out porn.
Wait, for real? I only ever saw the ‘sexual content’ tag, which is annoying to block, as it covers stuff like Baulder’s Gate 3 and such.
Yep, it’s under account details then store preferences. I posted this in another comment somewhere else in the thread but here’s a screen grab of it on mobile.
There should be a forced tutorial for that (and tags) when you first open the store lol
brainrot people have been skipping past such prompts since long before tiktok, and complaining loudly if they can’t
I think several of them are not shown by default, and the user has to go grant permissions to see them. I don’t remember where the line is drawn though (outright sex games, full nudity, mild, etc.)
youre telling me you didnt know you can control your adult content preferences until right now
Y’know what? I’ll disagree with you there, let the porn games be on Steam. BUT! Do a thorough quality and content check (i.e. no rape, kiddy diddling, spousal abuse, any other type of abuse, etc.) on ALL of them, and throw the slop away. Then do this for every other genre, and make the porn harder to find - like the video store backroom.
Edit: Steam should assume more curation roles. I mean, even SOME curation roles, because the Steam library looks like my old dorm room the morning after my birthday party: filled with trash, vomit, and loneliness.
Edit 2: speaking of video store backrooms, maybe they could do just that, branch off that section of the library and set it on its own domain, like a Steam After Dark, or whatever.
Edit 3: STEAMY AFTER DARK! I want my 10.000 Internet Points NOW!
Genuine question, why? It seems just that you want your arbitrary moral rules instead of Visa’s or MasterCard’s (or PayPal’s).
I am not being glib, I simply don’t know how else to respond to “why not allow games about raping people, or paedophilia, or abusing people in a romantic context” other than with “because all of those things are objectively unconscionable.” And, yes, I’d argue that they are all worse than Video Game Violence™ even when just taken within the “it’s just vidya” context.
I dunno, I fully accept that it may be just getting old and outdated, but… I genuinely can’t see that stuff otherwise, nor could I agree with the distribution of such stuff out of the same website on which you can also get, like, Tiny Tots’ Fluffy Fun Town Adventure, the hit platformer for 1-year-olds, y’know?
I’m not stupid enough to believe that such stuff will never exist, as I’ve seen it exist already. Like, ok, but that’s different. Horrid stuff will exist in one way or another, there’s still a market for snuff films and such, ok I can accept that as an inevitability. But it’s one thing for It to exist, and another to sell It as one would a can of soda, in full view and reach of just anyone.
Never going to happen. It’s valve lmao.
Also porn games will keep getting delisted and removed because ultimately it’s the payment processors powering the store that have the final say. And nobody there is interested in indulging in your content checks, they have their own.
There are games that talk about or depict abuse as part of their story line. I think adults can be trusted to engage with art that has adult themes. In the end the hardest part (of letting adults in but not kids) is enforcement, games are rated for that reason but it’s on parents to care.
Myeah :-<… it’s a damned shame, though…
And I was referring more to games which have you abuse other characters, broaching abuse as an element and studying it for what it is is ok. Hell, I’d even argue we need more games which show the effects and repercussions of abuse…
It doesn’t matter if it’s done by a playable or non-playable character in my opinion. My litmus test is if you can write a book with it’s depictions, then you can show it in a game too. The only difference is the audience.
edit: and by “write” I mean “without it becoming a hateful manifesto”. also I’m not talking strictly about steam here, but anything that uses those payment processors
Fair enough, should’ve phrased it as “where the abuse is presented as a positive in any way, or is the goal in order to obtain gratification,” what you said is essentially what I was thinking:))
I think a lot of people understood that I wanted to start a censorship war with porn, but it’s not at all what I meant. I would just keep the inhuman, the monstruous stuff away from shelves, and by that I don’t mean kinks and such.
Not even Nintendo, who for a long time branded itself as the most family oriented company in videogames, is doing any sort of proper curation for stuff entering their shop. Unlike Steam, they don’t even care to label whether the slop has AI or not
But it’s pretty clear Nintendo’s almost exclusively in it for the money and nothing else at this point. I wouldn’t even expect them to curate anything, quite the contrary, I expect everything Nintendo-wise to keep getting worse.
Steam, on the other hand, still has hints that it primarily wants to be a one-stop-app for gaming, which is why I believe there would still be room for them to “own it,” y’know?
Why are you booing me, I’m right!=)))
Tangential, but in my steam library, there is a single anime game, a free bullet hell that I pretty quickly realized was both too difficult and annoying for me. The main character’s voice was so piercingly shrill that I had to mute all voices to survive using a super move without experiencing an aneurysm.
Now my recommendations are all hentai jigsaw puzzles, and I don’t even particularly like jigsaw puzzles or hentai. Steam doesn’t seem like the sort of company to abandon porn, if that was all it took to get them to advertise it to me.
There’s a setting in your store preferences to hide those games. It distinguishes between “there’s sometimes nudity” and “porn game” even.
I feel ridiculous for not remembering this. I set everything to visible because I expected some pornographic masterpiece of gameplay to somehow fall in my lap like 10 years ago. Thank you, now I can browse steam in public.
That was Monster Girl Quest for me…
It’s a visual novel with turn-based combat, so the gameplay’s eh, but story-wise it’s phenomenal.
Realistically it’s not crazy to be at least a little bit upset with the sheer fucking number of them. I just wanted to make sure you and others knew that you can hide those smut games without hiding like everything with any NSFW content in it.
It’s pretty funny seeing people complain about this because you know that they enabled this setting and forgot about it.
I personally enabled it a long time ago because I didn’t want anything I didn’t directly hide in the store to be hidden from me. Changed my mind after being inundated by the sheer fucking number of them. It was like half my damn recommendations sometimes.
I like how not liking jigsaw puzzles was your first point
Was it a Touhou game?
Found the title. Gonna butcher the spelling, but jigoku kisetsusan sense of the seasons. It was a fan game, as I faintly remembered.
Looked at it’s entry on tvtropes and it looks like the game is partly inspired by Touhou.
Touhou Project
Edit: nvm, i misread your comment and thought you were asking what it was
I’m not sure if that was the company, but it was certainly in that style. iirc, it was a fan game, but don’t quote me. I saw some video on black midis and wanted to try a game that incorporated similar music,